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Most folks will use this unit with a 2 channel pre-amp prior to the DSP crossover and feed the amps directly from the outputs of the DSP crossover. However one could also feed the source directly into the DSP crossover and adjust the overall volume via a 4-channel pre-amp or 'passive' pre-amp. For my next home project, I want to put most of my energy into the DSP part. I know that there are numerous projects out there that do what I need, but I want to write it myself in Juce. I want to build a 2 IN - 6 or 8 output speaker crossover, possibly with some mixing or other features. HU Rockford DSP Arc Audio KS300.4 channel 1&2 to Focal 165 krx2 (front doors w/ crossover) channel 3&4 to sundown 6.5 (rear door) American Bass VFL-Hybrid 4480.1D 3 Audiomobile GTS2210. The Streaming HD (SHD) Power amplifier replaces all your gear (Crossover/Room Correction/DAC/Amplifier) without sacrificing quality. Don't be fooled by his small size, this 2x120W amplifier is powered by Dirac LiveĀ® Room correction, Volumio.

  1. Dsp Crossover
  2. Stereo Active Two Way Crossover
  3. Dsp Speaker Kit
  4. Dsp Crossover Board
  5. Digital Active Crossover

Setting the correct bass management on receivers and processors is essential to getting the most out of your audio system. While some systems recommend 80Hz (the standard THX setting for Select and Ultra2-based systems) this is not always the best setting for all theater systems.

Bass Management Should Be Crossed over at the Best Setting for Your System

Just because THX specified a suggested LFE cutoff frequency, doesn't mean it is always appropriate for all room/speaker implementations or that it must be blindly followed. Many times its easy to forget what a subwoofer is meant to do. It is meant to act like a subwoofer, not a woofer. The purpose of a subwoofer is to reproduce very low frequencies that most loudspeakers cannot reproduce with authority on their own. In the 5.1 Digital realm, the LFE channel was introduced as a means to alleviate the demand placed on the other channels to deliver low frequencies with ample amounts of 'oomph' without limiting the dynamic range. When using an LFE/subwoofer cutoff (-3dB) at 80Hz / 24dB/octave slope, the frequencies slightly above the 80Hz setting are high enough to still have directional perception, especially if the sub is located in close proximity to the listening position. This makes it easier to locate the sub in the listening room and / or reinforcing standing bass waves in the listening room (above 60Hz) by coupling with the bass output from the main speakers if they are configured large.

Selecting the Right Crossover for Your System

Selecting the right crossover for your system is a process that involves much listening and experimentation. Sometimes it can be easy (such as when a loudspeaker manufacturer tells you where to set it) and sometimes it can be more difficult. On systems that offer a flexible bass management system, shoot for setting the crossover frequency for at least 10Hz above the lowest frequency your main speakers can reproduce cleanly.

There are a whole host of caveats we have to mention here, and we recommend looking at our other articles dealing with loudspeaker setup and configuration. In essence, you are trying to attain a smooth transition from the lower capabilities of your main speakers to the subwoofer. The goal is to not accentuate, or bump, the frequencies in the crossover setting location, but arrive at a seamless blend from mains to sub. In addition, we prefer crossover settings below 80Hz whenever possible so that the subwoofer frequencies are not directional. On some satellite systems, you may find that you have to set the crossover to 100Hz. This is OK, provided it nets you the best overall response.

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What About THX Systems?

THX is almost a different beast altogether. A THX Select or Ultra2 system is specifically designed to have the bass management set at 80Hz. While you are free to alter the crossover frequency of a THX system, you will not be utilizing the system as it was intended to be heard. In addition, THX processing and DSP assumes (and sometimes initiates) an 80Hz crossover setting for the LFE. While a THX system may not be desired by everyone, we actually recommend those systems (assuming THX speakers in conjunction with a THX receiver/processor) be configured as recommended.

Conclusions

We highly recommend experimenting with the variable Bass Management / Crossover settings in your receiver / processor to arrive at the best setting possible for the marriage between your loudspeakers and subwoofer, especially if you are using quality 'large' tower type speakers with inherently good bass extension. You will find the addition of a sub is much more useful as a compliment to your main speakers, producing deep, non-directional bass tones.

Keep in mind that setting the LFE too high can allow your sub to play up to almost 100Hz, which can cause a bass bump between your main speakers and sub; increasing the chances of:

  1. Unwanted and unnatural sounding standing bass waves.
  2. Identification of the subwoofer as a point source rather than a discrete member.

We recommend following these simple guidelines and then experimenting on your own to get the best possible sound performance out of your system.

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The analogue circuitry and ASP printed circuit board for equalizing woofer and midrange drivers, for crossovers from midrange to woofer and tweeter and for equalizing the overall response performs well, but uses through-hole technology for mounting components. This is a dying technology and has been replaced by surface mounted devices. Consequently, procurement of high quality leaded capacitors can be a problem and is not going to improve in the future. The sensible solution is to replace the LX521 ASP with a digital processor of equal or enhanced performance.

I challenge whoever has the skill set and experience with DSP design to come up with a prototype that meets the minimum set of requirements below. Send the prototype to me after you have verified to your satisfaction that it meets those requirements. Let me evaluate the prototype, your cost analysis and feasibility for DIY construction and then return it. Let's talk about how to distribute your design or product so that LX521 customers and us can benefit from it.

Minimum requirements

  1. Measured performance and aural impression at least equal to the LX521 ASP
  2. Digital input so that it can be driven from the Oppo BDP-95 or Squeezebox Touch, which has volume control
  3. Analogue outputs (RCA) to drive woofer, midrange and tweeter power amplifiers of equal gain
  4. IIR filters, no pre-ringing
  5. Option to drive lower and upper midranges separately
  6. Pre-programmed frequency responses. Expert only access to change filter parameters
  7. Not requiring a computer for normal operation
  8. DIY construction without having to solder SMD's
  9. Shielded enclosure. External universal power supply
  10. Cost similar to ASP

Dsp Crossover

For a second product development the DSP unit could be combined in one enclosure with 10 Hypex power amplifiers and their power supply. Volume control must be included. Four speaker cable bundles would be connected to two 4-conductor and two 8-conductor Neutrik Speakon connectors at each end.

Stereo Active Two Way Crossover

Relevant links:

Richard's Stuff - An exemplary DSP design. Signal level, noise and distortion issues have been investigated and addressed.

Grimm Audio - DSP loudspeaker crossover done right

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Our longtime contributor and highly respected supporter of the OPLUG, known as 'Davey', sent me a DSP prototype to which I have listened now for many hours. I am quite impressed. Its performance is on par with the LX521 ASP. It is an alternative to the ASP. The only drawbacks that I see are the lack of analog input capability, which could be resolved by adding a suitable ADC module, and secondly, an input-to-output gain of less than 0 dB, which can make it impossible on some program material to drive the loudspeakers to full volume without a separate preamplifier.

Construction of the DSP is literally plug-and-play due to RCA coax interconnects between modules. No soldering is required. But the DSP needs to be configured via USB from a computer. After that operation the DSP is self contained and runs independent of a computer. The proprietary LX521.xml file, which is essential to obtain the intended DSP functionality, is available for owners of LX521 Construction Plans.

Parts/software used for construction of the prototype:
  1. nanoDIGI 2x8 K or B
  2. nanoDIGI 2x8 plug-in (programming software)
  3. FiiO D03K DAC (4x), ( FiiO D07 for +3 dB out?)
  4. Power supply, 5V, 500 mA
  5. RCA cables (4x, short length)
  6. Proprietary LX521.xml file

For analog input I used an ADC with S/PDIF & Toslink outputs, a SESCOM DCT-4T. It is inexpensive. It runs at 48 kHz rate, which is up-sampled to 96 kHz inside the nanoDIGI. When used for lower grade analog sources the ADC may have insignificant audible consequences. Output from high quality sources is most likely in digital format.

I reconfigured my sound system, placing the MCV channel gain and volume control downstream from the DSP, which therefore operates with maximum digital signal levels. This is desirable for maximum signal-to-noise ratio, but runs the risk of signal clipping, particularly in the woofer channel with its large amount of boost for very low frequencies. I did not notice any problems so far. I added 3 dB of analog gain to the woofer output channels using the MCV. The ADC outputs are dead-quiet. The Squeezebox Touch has volume control for the SPDIF digital output, but not the Oppo BDP-95. Before you build this DSP solution you need to establish how you are going to control volume in your setup. The nanoDIGI 2x8 itself has IR remote volume control capability, but only by decreasing gain.

What I find attractive about this prototype is the simplicity with which it can be built. Intego mac. The nanoDIGI 2x8 is the core, having convenient digital input and output connections to which a variety of DAC's and ADC's can be connected, depending on the user's preferences and needs, once the core has been configured with the LX521 specific firmware. The proto is a low cost solution as shown, but there is no limitation to using different peripherals with the core processor, if needed. But in that case the solution could become expensive and a different hardware implementation might be preferable in order to accommodate analog input signals. AES/EBU data streams can probably be handled with a simple passive interface or directly. A drawback of the above solution for my use is the marginal output level from the DAC's, which I compensate by using the MSB multi-channel volume control with up to 10 dB of gain. I also increase the woofer channel gain in the MSB.

After more listening by myself and an experienced audio professional I can state that Davey's LX521 DSP prototype is without reservations an excellent alternative to the ASP in a stereo system application. But, if a number of LX521 are to be used in a surround setup, then a DSP with analog inputs or the ASP are required, because multichannel digital data streams, such as in HDMI interfaces, are not available with multiple 2-channel S/PDIF connections.

Dsp Speaker Kit

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The setup by Richard Taylor can be used to implement a 2- or 3-way digital crossover with equalization for active loudspeakers. It runs on a Linux PC and uses only free, open-source software. The design goal was a small, self-contained unit that can live on a shelf beside an amplifier: it runs without need of a display, keyboard, or mouse, and it looks like this:

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I am fully confident that Richard's meticulous design will match the LX521 ASP in performance.

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Solution a) is missing analog inputs and AES-EBU digital inputs. For a complete solution [email protected] miniDSP suggested to try out the miniDSP 4x10 Hd . It is a self-contained unit and with analog output for 8-channels already built-in. Davey adapted his configuration file from the nanoDIGI 2x8 to this fully assembled, yet highly flexible digital signal processing platform.

I have been listening to this processor now for a while using analog and digital outputs from the Oppo BDP-95 and Squeezebox Touch. I still use the multi-channel volume control after the miniDSP 4x10 Hd to be able to get extreme volume levels from the LX521 and AT1806 power amps. Davey has preset the unbalanced outputs to limit at 1.3 Vrms. On several occasions I amplified them by 5 dB in the MCV. But the unit can be switched to 2.5 Vrms max output. I will use that in the future and in conjunction with the internal volume control. It should eliminate any need for the MCV.

I am pleased with what I have heard so far. The miniDSP 4x10 Hd strikes me as more than an alternative to the ASP, accommodating both analog and digital sources and also providing volume control. The configuration file is available for owners of LX521 Construction Plans.

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What else is needed?

Dsp Crossover Board

Contribute from your knowledge and experience to 'The DSP Challenge' discussion on the OPLUG.

Digital Active Crossover

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